Kentucky Sports Radio
[Moderated by Matt Jones]
[Moderated by Matt Jones]
This seemed like it would be a lazy Monday on the news front and those of us with other professions could focus on getting out of the post-Derby haze. But then came a little tidbit of news out of Raleigh. All-everything PG John Wall was cited for breaking and entering in his hometown. Immediately the over-reaction started. Some Kentucky fans said that the Cats should stop recruiting him, Duke fans said they were done with this troublemaker and UNC fans began praising Roy Williams for having not yet offered him a scholarship. With no details, the judgment was made by many and it was assumed that John Wall was trouble waiting to happen.
But then as it so often does, the truth countered the original assumptions. It was shown that the house in question was actually an empty house that had been foreclosed and would soon be up for sale. Reports showed that nothing was taken from the home and that there was no forced entry. Three kids, one of whom was Wall, had walked in the back door of an empty house and had been caught by an officer. No arrests were made and a citation was not given until after the fact. Wall was charged with a misdemeanor and depending on how the Raleigh prosecutors choose to handle the media publicity, the entire incident could end up dismissed.
So what do we make of all this? Well one thing is clear, the Wall incident will have no impact on Kentucky’s recruitment of him. Coach Calipari was very clear in his introductory press conference that he believed in second chances and there is nothing in his past that would suggest that he will give up the Wall pursuit. If Coach Cal was fine going after Tyreke Evans, John Wall will not be a problem. Second, there is nothing about this incident that suggests Wall is a bad kid. I have spoken with John on a couple of different occasions and he has been nothing but respectful and has shown none of the signs of a problem child. Bomani Jones has spoken repeatedly of Wall’s good family and his belief that he is a quality kid adjusting to his new spotlight. While following his recruitment may have been frustrating to some, there is a difference between a kid who likes attention and one who is a troublemaker. Wall seems to be the former, but not the latter.
None of that is to say however that the incident is not a maturity wake-up call. John Wall has hit the big time and with that comes pressure. He is the most known recruit in America….period. And if he goes to either Kentucky or Duke, he will be the most hyped Freshman in America….period. The attention is great, but with that comes responsibility to not “act a fool.” When you were a teenager, you may have gone into abandoned houses to hang out with your friends or a girl and be mischevious. But when you are John Wall, you cant do it. The media attention on Wall is strong now, but what if he goes to Lexington. The traditional news media reports on what cars players drive and the secondary media (like blogs and message boards) report on EVERYTHING about the player, no matter how mundane. Wall needs to get used to that spotlight and little acts of immaturity simply cant happen.
Ultimately this charge wont end up being a big deal. “Breaking and Entering” sounds bad, but in this case means a kid went in an open door into an empty house. My guess is the same teams that recruited him before will recruit him now (unless there is local pressure from those in the Duke faculty and alumni, but as Bomani said…they looked past Sheldon Williams). And ultimately, in a couple of days this incident will be forgotten. While John Wall should take this as a lesson, please spare me those who will somehow say that this matter is symbolic about him or the broader issue of who Calipari recruits. This is a kid who made a dumb mistake. Yes he is a famous kid, but he is still a kid. Lets not act like you didnt do something this stupid when you were younger….its just when it was you, nobody cared.
Calipari may in the future recruit guys that we wonder about….but Wall is not one of those guys and this incident is no big deal.
We will have more all day and my guess is that the news as to where Eric Bledsoe will end up will leak during the day. Stay tuned…..
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May 4th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
Damn!
May 4th, 2009 at 10:52 pm
First?
May 4th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Fail
May 4th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
Glad you posted this…people are freaking out on message boards and blogs like the kid killed someone. Chill out people. Should he have been there? No. Does this somehow show that Wall is a bad kid who will cause problems? No.
May 4th, 2009 at 10:54 pm
If we get Bledsoe and Wall does that put us ahead of the Fab Five in regards to best recruiting class?
May 4th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
2) You are more than welcome to it. It does absolutely nothing for me. Enjoy.
May 4th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
I hope Wall decides soon. Hopefully this incident will speed the process up a little bit.
May 4th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
I don’t think it’s a big deal. I did waaaay worse stuff when I was in high school, I just didn’t get caught.
May 4th, 2009 at 10:58 pm
This isn’t a big deal…it may very well get thrown out…sounds like him and the other guy and the female needed a place to have a little fun…he wont have to worry here…that’s what the lodge is for. haha
May 4th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
#5 — without a doubt…we’d have the best recruiting class in NCAAB ever if we get both of those PGs…
Great Post Matt! People need to chill out.
CAN ANYONE tell me what the post on KSreports that says Wall to choose between Miami and UK is all about?
Has this incident sped up the Wall’s decision or is this complete speculation on MM’s part?
May 4th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
foget about breaking and entering…he was with two chicks…hmmm….glad he can handle the double-team..
May 4th, 2009 at 10:59 pm
1)I haven’t seen any annoying posts from your “Pupil”. Did he get banned?
May 4th, 2009 at 11:01 pm
BREAKING NEWS: John Wall to delay his decision regarding which school he will attend this fall in light of his recent misdemeanor charge for some time to reflect and recover from the forehead ” DOH!” smack which he was caught repeatly doing for hours after the break in.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:02 pm
10) this the one your looking for??
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/palmbeach/umbl og/entries/2009/04/30/does_um_really_have_a_chance_t.html
May 4th, 2009 at 11:03 pm
I got one up on Wall when I did that growing up, I didn’t get caught. LOL….. We all have done stupid things and he’s no different.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
Thanks Wall2Cousins!
That’s probably what that KSReport forum was talking about…
May 4th, 2009 at 11:09 pm
12) I think he is posting under a different name. A lot of 1st post on here of late. I thank the good lord posting 1st does not get me off. But I guess whatever floats your boat.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Since there was no sign of forced entry and nothing appeared to be broken, wouldn’t it just be considered Entering?
May 4th, 2009 at 11:11 pm
Come on Houston. Shock the world!
May 4th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
NO…the Breaking part simply refers to breaking the threshold of the door…
My buddy got charged with it for a similar situation and the house was simply unlocked.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:15 pm
He is correct no one cared about us except our parents but with Wall the entire basketball world knows. I still think k is behind the entire thing.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
18 - I would think trespassing, and that’s if the owner of the property wanted to press charges.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:20 pm
You know, mortgage rates are low. There’s $15,000 downpayment assistance available for buyers of foreclosed homes and realtors are scumbags. I was actually thinking about doing the same thing John did, no big deal!
May 4th, 2009 at 11:21 pm
No Trespassing is simply for setting foot on the property…
So, for going in the house, he could be charged with Breaking and Entering and Trespassing…but that’s almost always considered redundant so that is why he is only charged with B & E.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
IF BLEDSOE COMMITS …. WALL WILL NOT!!!!!!
May 4th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/breaking+and+entering
AGAIN
B & E — Breaking refers to breaking the plane of the door’s threshold. As in…pushing an unlocked door upon.
Entering is — taking a step into the house.
It’s semantic but then again what isn’t in law?
Regardless — this is not a big deal.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
#25 your right Wall might not come to UK but if doesn’t it won’t
have anything to do with Bledsoe.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
I don’t agree Can Tuckee Boi — but how do you do the bold?
BTW, I love the Biz Markie commercial.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:29 pm
For 26 — upon = open…
looked right to me…but then I’ve been awake for nearly 48 hours. Just took my last final…
May 4th, 2009 at 11:31 pm
SAVE UK — you still think Wall will come to UK or will it be Duke or Miami or God Forbid — Florida?
May 4th, 2009 at 11:35 pm
Even without Wall, do you guys understand how much better we’re going to be next year??
May 4th, 2009 at 11:38 pm
#30 I still think he will come to UK but who really knows, his recruitment
is a mystery. I don’t think Miami or UF have a real serious shot. I think
Duke has a great shot and maybe UNC if they try to come on strong at the
last min, which I doubt.
Bledsoe signing will ease a lot UK fans minds, I hope. At least we know
we will have one elite pg. We still need Wall, he is a 1st year “for sure” star.
Bledsoe is very important, we need him just as bad.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:39 pm
I hear you 31…
I want Wall to come as well…but I think Bledsoe is coming and with that we should have the #1 recruiting class in the nation and oh yeah…an All-American coming back in Meeks.
At least I think Meeks will return. If PP comes back which is less likely, we’re almost assured of an Elite Eight trip next year if not a Final Four appearance…
And to think 6 weeks ago I would have been happy with beating Notre Dame in the NIT — that’s how bad/low my expectations had become.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
Thanks Save now I can go to sleep…
May 4th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
Bledsoe coming to UK wont change what Wall does…Wall wants to win a championship…you get the best players so that happens…they both can play on the floor at the same time..be real all…the negitivity here suks.
May 4th, 2009 at 11:44 pm
Wtf, Save Uk doesnt know any more than anyone else, he just acts like he does, i wish he would show proof for sayin bledsoe is for sure coming
May 4th, 2009 at 11:53 pm
Feel like we got Bledsoe in the bag (uk>um not even close) Time to put full court press on Wall and finish off the best off-season in Uk b-ball history
May 4th, 2009 at 11:56 pm
if it makes anyone feel better, i got kicked out of boy scouts. i got caught eating a brownie….
May 4th, 2009 at 11:57 pm
How ironic… Wall got bitten by his own snake.
His drawn out recruiting saga was specifically designed to direct the maximum amount of attention on him. Well, when you have all eyes looking at you, definitely a bad time to pull a bonehead move like getting arrested. Superstars get triple doubles and help sick kids when the media is focused on them. They don’t go out and get ‘cuffed.
Bet he wishes he committed early, then this wouldn’t even have hit the blogosphere. Now, everyone will remember him for this.
If he goes to Duke, you know that Tar Heel fans will be seen wearing “John Wall broke into my house and only left me this lousy t-shirt!”
May 4th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
27.) i disagree
May 5th, 2009 at 12:06 am
39-The longer you give someone to make a decision the longer they will take. I agree that Wall still having a 8 school list is ridiculous, but I disagree with all of this diva bs everybody is saying. He’s not a diva anywhere but on these college b-ball recruiting blogs which is our fault. If it wasn’t for Cal leaving Memphis he might have already signed. Its just two more weeks, give the kid time there is no early signing bonus
May 5th, 2009 at 12:10 am
Wall would start over Bledsoe in any team in the nation. They both know that. Wall sure ain’t afraid of losing PT to anyone. Why would a Bledsoe commitment have any bearing on what Wall does?
May 5th, 2009 at 12:14 am
stop by and vote if you guys get bored.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:32 am
brb 3 kids are out in my shed.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:33 am
42. Well look at everyon one of his favorites…. see a common theme???
UNC - No Lawson
Duke - No Paulus
Florida - Lost Calathes
Miami - Lost McClinton
Kentucky - Never had one
Its not brain surgery….plus he threw us out the first time because we had already signed Vilarino…..I would think he is a little more thrown back by Bledsoe…
May 5th, 2009 at 12:40 am
#45 He threw us out the first time because he either wanted to go to Duke
or play for Calipari, not because of Vilarino. That is my opinion but
maybe your right and Wall didn’t want to play for UK because of GJ. Doesn’t
make sense to me but I will take your word for it
May 5th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Lets line it all up:
Cal hsa nothing to do with Memphis being in the mix, not a damn bit. Bledsoe was all but a Cat under BCG. Then BCG was fired and that went out the window. Since then, Cal was at Memphis, and a final list for Bledsoe didn’t have Memphis on it, he wasn’t being heavily recruited by the Tigers. Cal moved on to UK, final list was UK, Florida, Cincy, Bama.
THEN, and this is what everyone should read and remember, since I am right and Eaves is wrong, Memphis hired Coach Cyp. Final list went from UK, Florida, Cincy, Bama with an unemployed Cyp (who was the recruiting force behind Bledsoe to UK) to UK and Memphis after Cyprien was hired by the Tigers. Cal has 0.00% to do with why Memphis is on this list, or Memphis would have been on the list when he was the coach there, or since Eaves wrongly asserts they are on the list because the work Cal did there recruiting Bledsoe, Memphis should have been on his short list BEFORE Glenn was hired. But he wasn’t, because Cyp is the reason Memphis is in the running at all.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:42 am
I hear Wall actually thought he was visiting another campus… North Carolina T&A
May 5th, 2009 at 12:42 am
45. but even if those teams had those guys, which one of those would have a shot of challenging Wall for a starting position?? UNC and thats it.
I agree with 42. I dont think Wall cares who he plays against, because he’ll be the best PG anywhere he goes. Who knows, maybe Bledsoe would like to play with another elite PG.
I sure hope Save is right on his prediction tonight.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:44 am
47. Was Bledsoe a Cat with BCG???
May 5th, 2009 at 12:47 am
SaveUK… is your new found confidence in Bledsoe the result of “info” or “conjecture”?
I like your input, but its hard to tell these days.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:49 am
Cype was heavily recruiting him to UK…then Billy Boy got fired…Cal get hired at UK…Cype gets hired on at Memphis,Bledsoe list changes and adds Memphis to the list only ONLY cause Cype is their now….IF…IF he chooses Memphis it will because of Cype.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:51 am
Congrats Wall2Cousins… you figured out a scenario that you think makes sense.
Doesnt mean it is accurate, or even relevant, but you sure seem to want to put it out there like it is.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:52 am
Matt wrote this back on May 17th 2008, “Does Kentucky have a chance with that competition? Well yes and no. The Cats were a favorite for Wall at one time, but over time they have lost some interest. Wall has expressed displeasure at the recruitment of another PG in the same class (GJ Vilarino) and a point guard from the JUCO ranks in this class (Kevin Galloway). It will be tough for UK to compete with the style of play being seen by Memphis and their success with Derrick Rose makes Memphis THE TARGET in America for the best point guards. Louisville may now be out of the picture with their recent commitment, but in his last interview with Rivals.com, Wall seemed to suggest that the Cards had passed UK on his list. All in all, getting Wall may be a bit of long shot at this point….but I know the UK staff is still fighting for him and they should….he could be the best point guard talent (and that is including Rajon Rondo) to play at Kentucky in our lifetime.”
May 5th, 2009 at 12:53 am
lol…53…Cype been recruiting him the whole time…Cype was at UK….Cype is not at UK anymore…Bledsoe never has Memphis on his list….Cype gets hired on at Memphis…Memphis is now on Bledsoe’s list…that simple.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:57 am
55. I know… I get it. Ive read it three times now, in three different comments.
To be honest, I dont really care what the motivation is if he goes to Memphis, or to UK for that matter. But I think its funny that you are stating your theory as fact, when a well connected friend of Calipari’s is saying something different. Hmmmmm.
May 5th, 2009 at 12:57 am
#45 is right
UNC - No Lawson
Duke - No Palus
Florida - No Calathas
Miami - No McClinton
Kentucky - never had one
but is it a trend like he suggest
UNC - Larry Drew 4 star PG 2008, one year experience; Dexter Strickland
4 star listed as SG but can play PG 2009
Duke - doesn’t have a true PG but they do have Nolan Smith and Elliot Williams
both highly recruited players who could play the PG position. Either way they
are elite basketball players
Florida - Erving Walker 2008. Started many games and has one year experience
Kenny Boytan 2009 5 star stud coming in.
So what do you think, is #45 on to something? Is there a trend there?
like to hear everyones opinion
May 5th, 2009 at 12:58 am
54 has no clue what he is talking about…:”it will be tough for UK to compete with the style of play being sen by Memphis and their success?”
WOW…your are so way off i dont have enough deoderant to tell you how far out in left field you are…lol
May 5th, 2009 at 1:01 am
well 56…you dont have to believe what i say or think…just giving you my opinion…and it makes complete since…Memphis was never in the picture til Cyp got hired on at Memphis….but all in all…I think we can get both Bledsoe and Wall…we should hear where Bledsoe goes sometime tommorrow night
May 5th, 2009 at 1:02 am
i am out nite!!
May 5th, 2009 at 1:02 am
I think Wall at first dropped UK because he didn’t want to play Gillispie’s
style over Calipari’s style at Memphis. He either wanted to stay close to home
or play for Calipari.
Now Calipari is at UK and all of a sudden UK is right in the hunt for Wall.
Hummm.. I think it has a lot do with style of play. Calipari style is
very attractive to elite pgs and the pgs he has put in the pros makes
it that much more attractive.
That is why Barnhardt went out and got Calipari because elite players
want to play for him
May 5th, 2009 at 1:04 am
58.) read the post idiot….. It was a post by Matt in May of last year…
May 5th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Wall2Cousins–that quote was from Matt about a 7 months ago. He was just pointing out that Wall took UK off of the list because they signed a PG and because BCG’s style was too slow for what Wall was looking for. Don’t kill the messenger.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:07 am
Wow! Rockets just pulled out game 1 in LA.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:07 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx5K6L9KIcI&feature=related
I know this is some ‘Bama shit, but I had to share this little piece of nastiness.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:10 am
#65–you show that weak dunk and don’t post Purry’s dunk? This dunk he got lucky, if the guy wasn’t there the dunk would have looked the same. The guy just missed the dunk. Post Purry’s where he went nut sack over the guy from what appeared to be the free throwline.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:11 am
^^missed the block–sorry
May 5th, 2009 at 1:11 am
Save- I agree with you. Walls decision should be about style of play. They made the list of what schools lost key players (45 and 57). But honestly I dont see how Wall could care about those guys that are gone because he would easily start over all of those guys except for Lawson. BUT, thanks to the NBA draft all of those schools listed have a hole in the PG position. So who wins….
style of play= UK and Cal obviously
hole in the PG position= UK has not only a hole, but a gaping hole in the PG position as of now. But no matter what hes positioned himself to go to a school where a good PG is needed. So I still hope the edge is to UK
May 5th, 2009 at 1:14 am
Is Calathas definitely gone? Did he hire an agent? I may have missed that somewhere.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:14 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbMCL2cBoao
You mean this one
May 5th, 2009 at 1:16 am
69. no he hasnt signed yet… I hope he doesnt and he comes back so we get a chance to beat him a few more times
May 5th, 2009 at 1:18 am
that collision between Yao and Kobe sure looked like a charge on Kobe….. oh well Im glad LA lost anyways.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:19 am
Yeah who cares… I think everyone did things way worse than wall- I know I did.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:23 am
#70–There you go. Much better and in Memorial to boot.
#71–Thanks. I didn’t think he had and expect him to return. This is a scam by Billy D. to try and land a PG by suggesting that Calathas is gone. Where is he projected? There are ton of good players that would be chosen over him I would think. He is good but not “NBA good” over bigger, quicker prospects.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:24 am
Save, you brought it tonight.
No beating around the bush, just info. Very nice. I am elated at the thought of getting Bledsoe. Can’t wait!
May 5th, 2009 at 1:28 am
#51 I forgot to answer your question.
Me saying Bledsoe is coming to Kentucky is my opinion but I formed
that opinion on several pieces of information I got from my friend.
The “teaser” I through out yesterday that I got blasted for by everyone
for not coming straight out with the info (Don’t worry guys I learned my
lesson, no need to revisit that) was from my friend in the AD dept.
He said that Bledsoe’s trip in Memphis went well but when he came to UK
he had a lot of questions about the things Pastner was telling him, like:
Showing Eric a list of PGs UK was recruiting, suggesting UK would recruit
the best of the best.
Telling Eric that he is the one Memphis wants and they won’t recruit over him.
Pretty much anything you can think of that would be considered “recruiting games”.
My buddy told me that Calipari was quick to answer those questions kind of like this:
Why would Pastner lie to you? Don’t you know he wants the best of the best as well?
Don’t you know about Joe Jackson?
Why would you want to play for a coach who doesn’t recruit the best?
Do you really think Pastner would stop recruiting elite pgs because you signed?
What kind of coach would that make Pastner if he actually did that?
How long do you think he would last at Memphis by doing that?
How many years of head coaching does Pastner have?
Let me show you the list of PGs that Pastner has great contacts with and
is actively recruiting.
You get the point
Plus Calipari sold the usual that Pastner doesn’t have like Cal’s resume for
putting elite pgs into the NBA. UK’s top notch facilites, exsposure, style of
play, etc.
My buddy said here is what he thinks is the difference.
Memphis is trying to recruit Bledsoe by recruiting against Kentucky.
Kentucky is trying to recruit Bledsoe by selling Kentucky.
Most cases the later wins out in those situations.
Calipari basically told Bledsoe Pastner was right about Cal recruiting
the best of the best. Cal told Eric that is why he is recruiting him and
they will continue to recruit the best of the best.
Cal pretty much told and asked Bledsoe. We both (Cal and Pastner) will
recruit the best of the best but I am not lying to you about it. Did Pastner
lie to you about it? What kind of coach do you want to play for, one that
lies to you?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:31 am
Wow I wrote a long post, sorry about that didn’t realize.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:33 am
And not many mistakes either Poopy Pusher. LOL
May 5th, 2009 at 1:35 am
I’d like to see this lineup; just for speed purposes:
1)Wall
2)Bledsoe
3)Meeks
4)Miller/Dodson
5)PPat/Cousins/Orton
Who’s gonna keep up with that?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:35 am
I wrote a way to long post
I could have just summed it all up by saying that Pastner (a brand new
head coach) try the “recruit against the other school” tactic.
Only problem with that is that Pasnter try to do it at Memphis against
one of the Elite coaches in America at Kentucky.
Calipari didn’t become who he is by letting those kind of tactics work
against him.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:36 am
76- Every coach either lies to recruits or badmouths other programs, it’s how you play the game. It’s just that every coach has some line of integrity that they won’t step across, unless the player is REALLY good, and when another coach steps across their arbitrary line… I’m just glad Pastner isn’t blatantly cheating like Florida, Texas, and Auburn do.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:36 am
Pastner has a lot to learn. Wish we had Cyp though. I really liked the guy and he is a class act. He will pull some players for Pastner in years to come.
All that you wrote is pretty much a given response by both parties involved. The difference is a logical person understands the situation while irrational ones want to blast a guy posting in the comment section of a blog.
Now go get me some real meaty stuff from your boy. By the way, have you called him yet tonight?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:36 am
#79 I wouldn’t, I would get a crick in my neck LOL
May 5th, 2009 at 1:39 am
#81 Your right but in this case Calipari didn’t have too.
That is why a lot of times getting the last visit, especially if your
the more elite coach and program is very benefitual. You just let
the coaches who go first feed the BS and if you have the last visit
you just call those coaches out for it and make them look like liers.
Did that even make sense?lol
May 5th, 2009 at 1:41 am
#82 I been calling him every night for the last few weeks about 2 in
the morning asking him the same question, “Has Wall committed yet”
I get the same response “click”
Lately he has been calling me a ahole or mofo or other choice words
then he hangs up
May 5th, 2009 at 1:41 am
81) We’ve got the best ‘Closer’ in the business.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:44 am
So your friend is present during the private conversations of Cal and recruits? Surely he doesn’t put these kind of conversations out in the open and surely he doesn’t fill in the entire staff with every detail that happened. Also- at first your friend wouldn’t give you any details just vague statements- yet now he shares entire conversations that occurred between the coach and the recruits?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:48 am
I agree with voice of reason, Save Uk constantly contradicts himself
May 5th, 2009 at 1:48 am
87- You’d actually be surprised at how much info from these “private” meetings is shared with a large number of people.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Does Calipari even have to lie or play those kind of games? Does
Roy Williams at UNC? Does Coach K at Duke? Does Self at KU?
They probably do but not that much, I wouldn’t think?
What games does Cal have to play?
Putting players in the NBA - check
Developing players - check
Style of play - check check check
Winning at the highest level - check
Elite program - now a check
top notch facilites - check
top notch exposure - check
Elite resources - check
Remember why Calipari said he wanted to come to UK?
“Because you can recruit the best of the best…… here”
When you combined the resume that Calipari has built and add it to
a program like Kentucky, you pretty much let all the other coaches
shoot the BS to recruits.
Calipari wanted the last visit from Bledsoe for a reason and he got it
May 5th, 2009 at 1:49 am
89-How do you know anything about this??
May 5th, 2009 at 1:49 am
SaveUK… thanks for the answer.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:50 am
I find it really hard to believe Cal is tellin everyone in the AD everything he talked about with Bledsoe
May 5th, 2009 at 1:54 am
People hang on everything SaveUk says as if he knows anything more about the situaiton than the rest of us, thats comical to me
May 5th, 2009 at 1:55 am
#87 Yes your right most of the time the info he gives me is vague and
yes he doesn’t drop names to me.
However, this isn’t something that was seceret - everyone knew Bledsoe
was coming up. There were no names to drop. He didn’t give me every
detail I am sure just a hint of what Bledsoe’s thoughts when he arrived
at UK about his trip to Memphis (more like questions) and how Calipari
responded to those questions.
It isn’t like he gave me anything damaging or “top seceret”. He just
gave me very small piece of the process.
The information he keeps from me is different from the Bledsoe situation.
It wasn’t a seceret Bledsoe was visiting UK.
Now if there is like a “mystery recruit” about to committ to UK or close
to it, he won’t give me those names. That could be damaging by alerting other
schools trying to get the same player to make a final and harder push.
See the difference?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:56 am
93. You are making too much sense. Instead youshould be asking what Bledsoe told his friend about the girls on the campus or what he had for lunch. My friend told me he thinks the girls are good and he really liked the turkey club. I will provide more completely guessed “inside info” as it is requested.
May 5th, 2009 at 1:58 am
#93–I bet he is telling every detail. Remember the reservations that the AD and Pres had two years ago? Until he proves himself and Sandy Bell knows how he works I would assume every detail would be discussed–at least for a short while.
I am not saying I agree with the preceptions about Cal. He was my first choice before BCG and Crean was my second choice. Where would we be right now if either coach had come.
If Crean would have gotten the job, could you imagine the names that Cal would be calling him today?
May 5th, 2009 at 1:59 am
Look at the very long post I wrote. That really isn’t that lot of
information nor damaging information. It isn’t information that
is told in some kind of seceret meeting.
It is probably something all the players and coaches talked about with
Bledsoe in normal hanging out conversatoin. Calipari wasn’t there when
Bledsoe first arrived. I am sure there had to be contact between the UK side
and Calipari on how he wanted the staff and players to respond to those
type of typical questions Bledsoe had.
Funny how many of you would think the information I just gave is somekind
of top seceret information that was held in a seceret private meeting.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:01 am
74. I dont know where or if he is projected. You know it wouldnt surprise me if you’re right about Billy D lol. He says they need a PG, gets one (maybe), then Calathes comes back…….
Calathes (to me) is like a Tyler Hansbrough. He could be a great college athlete….. but I’d bet money that he wont do squat in the NBA.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:04 am
#93 I am sure it wasn’t just Calipari saying all this to Bledsoe. I am
sure it was other people in the AD dept like my buddy, Mitch, assistant
coaches, and players all telling these things to Bledsoe
You don’t think Calipari prepared everyone on how to answer these types of
questions? You don’t think people called Calipari to ask him how to answer
the questions Bledsoe had?
May 5th, 2009 at 2:08 am
Calathas will be a Dunleavy(sp), Wally S. or Rex type player in the NBA. He will be a complimentary player that will contribute for a team and have a long career. Most certainly will be better than Morrison.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:10 am
-93- I find it very hard to believe that you are the real Charles Barkley. You seem very angry.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:14 am
#100–Cal knew exactly what Pastner was going to say before he even said it. He watched him recruit last year and knows his tendencies. The best thing would have been for Cyp to sell the kid by saying,
“We thought we had something at UK but Memphis has more than you would have had by joining me in Kentucky. Josh has a more up tempo style that is better than what BCG had planned for you. This is the place you need to be. Did I mention that there is a casino just across the river, an NBA team here, great music, great BBQ and the nightly news is like watching a new episode of COPS.”
May 5th, 2009 at 2:16 am
Are you people so naive to not really see what Wall is waiting on. Please tell me you people aren’t this dumb. Guess I gotta kick some knowledge to ya!
He is in a bidding war similar to an auction. He’s waiting on the best monetary offer from all these schools. Why do you think Miami of all places became a contender so late in this process out of no where.
He’s looking to get a head start to his bank account before he goes to the NBA. Sure he wants to win, he’s a competitor, but the money he will receive ultimately means more.
Style of play matters of course. He has to get the necessary stats to warrant the highest draft stock possible. If it was solely based on that, then why wouldn’t he have already committed to Cal. Cal has obviously had recent success with the PG’s as we all know.
The Truth is, no one knows anything about Wall’s future destination because every school is still making offers out to him. His list is still at 8 for crying out loud! 8! 8! 8! Sure people draw out the process similar to Patt., but his list was 2 or 3 at this point.
And Patt and Wall are 2 different kinds of players, Patt may not even get a lottery pick after soph. yr, Wall would be top 3 out of high school! Basically Patt isn’t even on Wall’s level. Not even close. Patt has zero chance to be an all-star in NBA, only an effective role player. Wall could be an All-Star 2 or 3 years in the league!
The fact that Wall’s list is at 8 at this point and taking trips to Miami of all places so late in this process makes it obvious in my opinion that the school with the biggest check made out to Mr. John Wall will win his services…Just a guess, but it’s prob. gonna take 150-250k (or more…who knows?!??) to get him in their jersey!
Does UK really need to get in such a messy situation? I think not. A recruiting scandal in Cal’s 1st yr is the last thing UK needs. We will be just fine with (HOPEFULLY!!!!) Bledsoe.
But you people saying that what matters to him most is championships, style of play, coaches, being close to home, who else is on the roster at PG, etc. obviously do not know how this world works! All of the aforementioned elements ultimately take a back seat to the size of the check! The highest bidder will win the Mr. John Wall Sweepstakes!
My guess is that Miami will hit the home-run. His stats will be better there and he will get paid doing it. Miami has nothing to lose! After that he will be the #1 player chosen in the NBA draft.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:20 am
#103 I agree, Pastner would have been better served by recruiting
“Bledsoe to Memphis” instead of trying to recruit “Bledsoe away from
Kentucky”.
I am sure Memphis fans think it is funny and cool how Pastner tried
to play “Look at what PGs Calipari is recruiting” game by showing
Bledsoe that suppose list.
I don’t think Memphis fans realize how that could easily have backed
fired on Pastner when Calipari knows exactly the elite pgs that Pastner
is in with, like Joe Jackson and Phil Pressey.
Now Pastner looks like a lier and the funny thing is he did it to himself
May 5th, 2009 at 2:20 am
#104–You can’t be serious.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:22 am
#104–If that is the case, Memphis is still the choice. Two reasons why:
1. They have the most money to spend.
2. They have FedEx to cover their butt instead of relying on Emery to deliver the envelope.
(Okay, bad joke but I couldn’t pass it up)
May 5th, 2009 at 2:26 am
#104 So your saying Wall rather take money now and go to a school
like Miami, where they haven’t proved to do much with PGs to the NBA
over a year with Calipari who has proven to make Elite PGs high lottery
picks? I think Calipari offers more $$ in the long run by increasing Wall’s
chances of getting the highest draft pick possible.
Your right, Wall is probably a lottery pick either way but that is a big
risk for Wall to take when a proven coach like Calipari is starring him
in the eyes.
What would you rather have? 100K (as you suggest) right now and likely lottery
selection a year from now
OR
take no money (from a school like UK) and play for a coach that might make
him the #1 overall draft pick.
The 2nd choice sounds like it would be more profitable in the long run
May 5th, 2009 at 2:30 am
#104–One last comment–Shhhh, you are embarassing yourself. Now put the bottle down, go stand in the corner and you are banned from voicing your opinion until after Wall announces where he is going.
Those days are gone my friend. Too much at stake if a school is caught. Look no further than a few miles north and ask Mr. Kelvin Sampson how the NCAA views text messages and then ask him what they would do if he was caught paying players (especially the amount you mentioned).
Ooops, come to think about it, Wall was looking at a home on a Saturday night–right?
May 5th, 2009 at 2:34 am
106, 108..First off, Miami is just a guess! no inside info, no sources, no nothing…just my dumb ass guess like every one else on here!
Second, Top notch players get paid all the time and do not get caught! Sometimes they do!
Third, With Wall running the show in Miami his stats would be baller. Being the lead guard on a team that will let him play as much as possible and take as many shots as possible, and basically run the show. No expectations of winning or losing. Wall would avg. in the ball park of 25 pts., 8 assts., 5 rbs., 2 stls easy! If not better!
But if you think players like Wall don’t get paid to go to college, your lost!
May 5th, 2009 at 2:38 am
#104 The NCAA has been trying to find out for years why Cal can land
top notch players, one after another. They haven’t found one damn thing
on him.
Do you not realize who are AD and UK President are? They go out of their
way to make sure everything in their athletic programs is clean.
Do you not realize who Sandy Bell is? She is like a “5 star #1 ranked”
complaince officer in college sports.
Take the NCAA finding ZERO on Calipari combined it with what we know
about Mitch and Tood, and mix it up with Sandy Bell - then explain how
you think Cal is a dirty coach?
May 5th, 2009 at 2:41 am
I never said anything about UK or Coach Cal or Ad’s or Presidents! I never even said UK was the favorite to land Wall! It’s no secret, Best of the Best Blue Chips get paid to go to college and I’m not talkin bout a scholly. WAKE UP!!! TOP NOTCH PLAYERS GET PAID…PERIOD!
May 5th, 2009 at 2:47 am
I honestly do not think Wall will sign with UK, Just my opinion! no facts, no sources! just my 2 cents…i’m not one of these clowns that claim they have inside knowledge to this situation and where he is gonna go. NO ONE KNOWS ANYHTHING, NOT EVEN WALL!! The one fact i do know that many of you are to naive to realize that top talent gets paid!
May 5th, 2009 at 2:49 am
#110 Players do get paid but not at UK with the way things are today.
Not with Mitch and Todd overlooking things. Not with Calipari risking
36 million+.
Cal isn’t Eddie Sutton. Eddie Sutton had something to prove when he came
to UK and would do anything to make himself an elite coach. Sutton
didn’t have the resume and creditials coming in. Sutton didn’t have
players begging to play for him.
Calipari has to much to risk and little to gain by playing that game.
He already had the elite status before coming to UK. He had nothing
to prove coming to UK. He could have stayed at Memphis and became a legend.
He came to UK because this was his dream and to win titles but he didn’t
have to prove anything.
Players won’t come to UK for money. They will come because Calipari can
get them to the next level.
If I was an elite player like Wall you might have to pay me something
to play for most coaches. You wouldn’t have to pay me to play for Calipari,
Roy Williams, Bill Self, and a few others. What those coaches could give me
is far greater than a little handout. Those few elite can prepare me and
develop me to be the highest draft pick I can possibly be and a great
shot at having a long career in the NBA.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:51 am
#113 so what your saying is that if Wall signes with UK, then UK or
someone connected with UK is paying him to play at UK?
May 5th, 2009 at 2:54 am
BINGO!
May 5th, 2009 at 2:55 am
104. If thats what you think then I dont know if you know how the world works.
I dont think Wall cares at all about a championship or tradition or anything like that. But he cares about who he plays for and who has the best chance of getting him that #1 pick in the draft. Is he going to get the exposure (that he obviously wants) at Miami, or at a place like Duke or Kentucky? Is getting $150 to $250 thousand (as you put it) worth not getting the exposure and playing time he needs to be the #1 pick?
After all, if hes #1 in next years draft, in a few years he’ll be able to wipe his @ss with a $250,000 check. I think money is the LAST thing this kid is going to have to worry about now, or at any point in his life.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:55 am
Like i said before, i don’t think he will choose UK. So you telling me Coach Cal’s life story is irrelevant. Your the type that thinks Wall is 95% UK aren’t you?
May 5th, 2009 at 2:57 am
You guys are the type that thinks a game would never get fixed either? Am I right? That has nothing to do with UK, WALL, CAL, or anything, just a hypothetical question?
May 5th, 2009 at 2:58 am
104. I really shouldn’t even respond to this- I can’t believe I am- anyone this delusional surely won’t understand what I’m about to type- but NO TOP TIER program plays college players 150 k to play. This is silly on so many levels. Wall will make millions of dollars one year from now- do you think his main concern is money? He wants to make sure he goes as high in the draft as possible- period. No top program risks everything by paying players-especially in the age we live in now- where every move is scrutinized. Do some smaller schools put a little pocket money in pockets? Probably happens. There are certainly small incidents that happen but I can guarantee nobody is bidding on Wall up to 150 k- Who would be so stupid? Really- how do you filter 150 k from a school to a player with nobody finding out? Explain this to me.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:58 am
#118 Nope but I am 95% sure it is between UK and Duke. I am 95% sure
those two coaches and programs with the people in charge at those
programs today, go out of their way to make sure that thing doesn’t
happen in their program.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:58 am
Im not saying Wall will or wont come to UK for any particular reason. But to think money will make a difference, considering the money he’ll be making in just 1 year, is laughable.
May 5th, 2009 at 2:59 am
It doesn’t matter where Wall plays, don’t you get that? HE WILL BALL WHERE EVER HE GOES AND WILL BE TOP 3 PICK IN NBA!
May 5th, 2009 at 3:00 am
If we get John Wall it wont be because he got paid.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:01 am
friends of the program, of course the school doesn’t pay out of pocket
May 5th, 2009 at 3:03 am
kids get paid 10-20k to throw a game, why wouldn’t they get 100k, esp. for someone like Wall
May 5th, 2009 at 3:03 am
If we get John Wall or UF or Duke or even Miami- nobody is bidding on players. Is it possible kids go to school and never have to worry about having spending money in their pockets? I’m sure it does- but nobody would be dumb enough to get in a bidding war over the recruitment of a high school kid- and no top tier program risks anything at all by even suggesting such a thing.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:05 am
126- AND a coach is willing to risk their entire careers to make this happen?
May 5th, 2009 at 3:05 am
#123 not really true. We don’t know that but Wall only increases those
chances by playing for someone with a proven record like Calipari.
What if he went to Miami and the coach didn’t develop him, didn’t watch
over him and let him get into trouble in the big city of Miami?
He might drop down. Next years draft class will be loaded and a lot of
competition. There will be a ton of true big men that is rare in the NBA
going into the draft. There will be a lot of guards as well.
There are no promises that Wall will be a top 3 pick but if he plays
for Calipari, those chances will increase. Big risk for Wall’s mother
to let him go to a school like Miami in that type of city with Calipari
and his proven track record starring her in the eyes.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:06 am
Whatever..believe or not! Kids get paid to go to school. Esp. Blue Chips
May 5th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Theres a difference in throwing a game and paying John Wall. Whether you pay him or not, hes going to go to college for one year and then go on to be a top pick and make millions in the NBA in ONE year. Theres no other scenario.
A kid will throw a game for 10 grand if he needs 10 grand. Would a kid throw a game and risk getting in trouble if he didn’t need it? Would Wall require $250,000 to go somewhere when in a year thats gonna be chump change? I doubt it.
Again, I dont think Wall gives a crap about wimming a championship or becoming part of a schools tradition. But if hes smart he’ll go to a place that will get him that # 1 pick easiest.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:07 am
Whew, that is nice to know that Louisville will not be bidding on him. “One extortation at a time” is Rick’s motto.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:08 am
PG’s trump all other positions in draft. Unless team drafting really needs a big man. He won’t fall lower than 3. no way
May 5th, 2009 at 3:11 am
I really don’t know how much money its gonna take to get him, maybe i over exaggerated when i said 150k or more, maybe less, who knows, but the kid will get paid and hes looking for the best offer
May 5th, 2009 at 3:13 am
Yes kids get paid but we are talking about Wall and the schools/coaches
involved.
What does fixing games have to do with coaches paying players?
Yes some kids want money but those types of kids don’t narrow their
list between UK and Duke with UNC lurking in the shadows ready to
jump in on their recruitment.
You really think if this was a bidding war for Wall that Cal and Coach
K would still be recruiting Wall? No, it be like Stephenson who can’t
find a school to take him.
We don’t disagree with you that there are kids who want to get paid.
What we disagree with is the suggesting that the schools like Duke and UK
are in a bidding war for Wall. We disagree that Wall is looking for money
by narrowing his list between Cal and Coach K.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:13 am
PG’s trump all positions, remember that!
1. POR — Greg Oden
2. SEA — Kevin Durant
3. ATL — Al Horford
4. MEM — Mike Conley Jr.
5. SEA — Jeff Green
6. MIL — Yi Jianlian
7. MIN — Corey Brewer
8. GSW — Brandan Wright
9. CHI — Joakim Noah
10. SAC — Spencer Hawes
11. ATL — Acie Law
12. PHI — Thaddeus Young
13. NOH — Julian Wright
14. LAC — Al Thornton
May 5th, 2009 at 3:21 am
134. I dont disagree with you either (that guys get paid to go places), but not guys the caliber of Wall. However, I do find it odd that he’s added Miami and even Florida (as I dont consider Florida elite like the UK’s UNC’s etc). Even though its weird, I just dont see why John would be trying to take money from these schools when he is a millionaire in the making.
Hes dragging this out because he wants the exposure. I think hes smart enough to figure out what college he should go to and why. Dragging this out keeps his name in the media. Thousands of people care about John Wall now….. and I dont think that would be the case if he had committed weeks ago.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:21 am
OK… Let me rephrase here…When there is a PG (like WALL) all other positions take a back seat. Like i said, there may be a team or 2 that have diff. needs, but if he makes it to 3, hes gone…True PG’s are rare, similar to true centers…When either is available you take them no matter what…it may be many years for either to come around again
May 5th, 2009 at 3:23 am
If it was a bidding war for Wall then why isn’t Memphis still in
the running? Why isn’t Okla St in the running? Why isn’t USCal in
the running for Wall? Why isn’t Lenoard Hamilton in the running for
Wall? Heck if it is a bidding war I am sure Wall is looking at Bama, right?
Nobody has boosters like Ohio State so that must be were Wall is going, correct?
Notre Dame must be in the picture for Wall
Not saying these school cheat but they do have big time boosters so if it
is about money then it has to come down to who has the most money
UK’s money is mostly tied up in money generated by the athletics, can’t
use that money that is to obivious. We have big time boosters but nowhere
close to the boosters many programs have.
Harvard, Princeton, and every other Ivy league school must be in the
running for Wall because they have HUGE big time boosters.
Johnson who owns the bobcats and started BET is the first black billionaire
in the country. He went to Princeton - BAME, I got it! Wall is going
to Princeton
May 5th, 2009 at 3:24 am
If UK was the type of place that bid on players, then how in the hell do you explain the fact that we’ve had 4 years worth of recruiting classes that included guys like Alleyne, Williams, Carter, Stewart, Woo, etc???
May 5th, 2009 at 3:28 am
137…u just made my point…everyone assumes that UK and DUKE Are Favs…you don’t know that…last time i checked he hasnt narrowed his list, and said there is no leader at all to this point…he has Baylor, Miami, Fla, NC St., UK, DUKE, and whoever else, who can remember a damn list that long…you dont know that its either UK or Duke. So why are those other schools on the same list??? He wants to see whats out there for him!
May 5th, 2009 at 3:30 am
I really don’t know these answers that is why I am asking:
How many elite PGs in the NBA where top 3 picks?
Derek Rose was, who else?
May 5th, 2009 at 3:31 am
139…u keep bringing this all back to UK trying to make your point cuz u think wall is 95% Uk…its not about UK…its about the other teams…IM NOT TALKING ABOUT UK!!!!
May 5th, 2009 at 3:33 am
WALL is that type of talent…i think you would agree he rose-like caliber??? Do you?
May 5th, 2009 at 3:34 am
Baylor–Brian Clifton (his adviser) has a brother coaching there.
Miami–free trip to South Beach and you don’t come out after leaving saying, I loved it but would not really consider Miami.
Florida–Billy D. came in won his mother over.
NC State–home school.
Duke–better home school.
UK–logical choice to get where he wants to go.
UNC–he had hoped they would jump in.
Memphis–your guess is as good as mine at this point unless they are going to pay him some FedEx money to come there. You might be onto something but I doubt it.
Pa-lease!
May 5th, 2009 at 3:35 am
You Can’t See It, I Can’t Explain It To You , That’s Why Your Fired!
May 5th, 2009 at 3:35 am
OJ Mayo was a #3 last year. Outside of last year, the average pick for a PG is about #7 (and those numbers include Devon Williams, Brandon Roy and Chris Paul)
May 5th, 2009 at 3:40 am
So if Wall does choose Kentucky will that change your mind about
Wall being about a bidding war?
May 5th, 2009 at 3:41 am
141. Im not sure where you read that, but I didnt say that he was down to UK and Duke. I was trying to make the point that you made, that its weird that he has non-elite schools (UF, Miami) on his list as well as elite schools (UK, Duke, UNC).
I agree that he wants to see whats out there, but I disagree that theres a bidding war going on for him. Maybe its because its 4am…. but I just dont get it.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:41 am
Where was Jason Kidd drafted? Steve Nash? Rondo? Derek Fisher, is he
even a PG?
May 5th, 2009 at 3:47 am
Fact: No one knows anything about Walls future choice!
Fact: He has 6-8 teams on his list!
Fact: He has no favorite!
Fact: He has elite programs listed with non-elite
Fact: It is not out of the Norm for Blue Chips to Get Paid!
Bidding War? I think So
147. see 138 & 144!
May 5th, 2009 at 3:48 am
Kidd–#2 behind Big Dog.
Nash –#15 by the Suns playing behind KJ then traded.
Rondo–#21 by the Suns and traded to the Celtics.
Fisher–#24 by the Lakers.
May 5th, 2009 at 3:52 am
I’m not NBA analyst here… Anyone that knows anything about basketball knows PG is the most important position on court…period…argument ends there…many scouts have labeled Wall once in a generation talent…
You got a top 3 pick…u really gonna pass on that? It’s not rocket science
May 5th, 2009 at 3:52 am
didnt mean to say generation, once every 10 year talent
May 5th, 2009 at 3:53 am
#151–
Fact–someone close to him knows where he is leaning (going)
Fact–He has 3-4 realistic teams on his list.
Fact–He has a favorite–He was quoted as saying it would come down to Miami or Kentucky (while on his trip to South Beach)
Fact–You got one fact right.
Fact–Norm would mean “normal” and I that is grossly overstated. While it may happen–it is certainly not the “norm”.
Bidding war? I think not.
NEXT!
May 5th, 2009 at 3:57 am
Again, no one knows anything in where Wall will end up…all ur “facts” are opinions at this point…you know it along with everyone else…
NEXT
May 5th, 2009 at 3:59 am
151, If your going to say its normal for blue-chippers to get paid, please give us a list of those players. It should be a long list if that is the “norm”.
Again… this kid WILL be a millionaire in a year. Why in the world does he want to engage in a bidding war this year?
May 5th, 2009 at 4:00 am
you really think every kid that gets paid comes out and makes it common knowledge, r u serious? It happens all the time, everyone knows this1
May 5th, 2009 at 4:04 am
well how do you KNOW if it isnt common knowledge?? I dont doubt it happens…. but all the time?? I think thats just your opinion and not a fact.
you have yet to prove anything you say as fact…. as opposed to your wild opinion.
anywho… Ive partaken in this nerd fight for too long….. good night BBN. Heres hoping for good news tommorow!!
May 5th, 2009 at 4:06 am
All my facts ,151, to this point are all facts
May 5th, 2009 at 4:09 am
madblue, Patterson and Lucas’ recruitment was long and drawn out, do you believe they were each paid by thier respected schools that they ended up going to?
May 5th, 2009 at 4:14 am
#151–They are not “facts”–they are opinions.
“Someone” close to Wall (including Wall himself) has an idea where he is going so the phrase “No one” makes your “fact” wrong.
He has a favorite, just not tipping his hand so that “fact” is wrong. He said his “favorites” were Miami and UK (at least for that week).
Norm? That “fact” is wrong–actually no fact at all because it is not the “norm”.
You need to change your name to “Conspiracy Theory” so we understand where your logic is coming from.
May 5th, 2009 at 4:15 am
#161–If so, Jai owes Florida their money back.
May 5th, 2009 at 4:30 am
Im so over this “will he or wont he be a Cat’ Im to the point I could care less… Bledsoe will give us just as much and isn’t a one and done player. Would it be nice to land Wall? Of course.
But will our program collapse if he doesn’t come? Get real.
I’ll just be glad when he does decide so all this talk will finally end and everyone can move on to the next “omg if we don’t get ____ we will never make the Final Four next year” player to be…
May 5th, 2009 at 6:59 am
Wall is a teenager. Why is he supposed to be mature? Teenagers are cursed by their lack of experience to be immature to the point of being damn fools. We all were that way. It’s the nature of life.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:08 am
I sure hope SaveUk is not another Bluesauve or STG. If Kentucky gets Wall and Bledsoe then SaveUk’s information will be worth reading from then on. Otherwise we don’t need the teasers.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:14 am
Wednesday we will all know if Bledsoe is coming. Supposedly. May not know about Wall until May 20.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:27 am
Outside of UCLA when they started their run of Chammpionships, NC Carolina has been the best recruiting school PERIOD. And still are. And that includes Florida, Memphis under Callipari and Duke. Memphis got Rose and Evans while NC got Lawson, Florida got Calathes. NC has five 5star players who will be freshmen next year. Now the point is NC has never be disciplined for illigal recruiting under any coach. Does anyone think that NC pays players to come to their school?
May 5th, 2009 at 7:30 am
Even the bad coaches NC has had they still recruited the 5star players. I don’t know what they like about NC but there must be something wonderful there.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:32 am
Calipari now has the school with the reputation so we’ll see soon if he can compete with the other schools and coaches for the 5star players he wants.
May 5th, 2009 at 7:33 am
Particularly North Carolina. By the way I am a Kentucky fan.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:05 am
Madblue187 are you a disgrunteled Professor or student. I’ll bet you’re not even a UK basketball fan. I do know I will skip over your posts from now on.
Kentucky, Kansas, Duke and North Carolina have coaches who are not planning on retiring tomorrow. Why would they risk losing Millions on ome player. If the attention and TV aren’t enough they may go to a school who will pay.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:14 am
One interesting note, Scout.com had Liggins rated slightly higher as a recruit than Bledsoe. Bledsoe may not ever be a starter here if Liggins shows improvement. Now Liggins, hasn’t shown us anything yet, but I get the feeling that we don’t really have an idea of some of our player’s abilities due to the previous coaching style/substitution patterns. And Galloway was an extremely low recruit, 19th at a SF position! Maybe Bledsoe is a better PG than we have, but I’m not so sure. Bledsoe isn’t going to give us immediate stability at PG, only a little depth.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:29 am
Jesus Christ, who gives a F!!!! New story please!!!
May 5th, 2009 at 8:34 am
Whats funny about 140’s post is that the suggestion is ridiculous enough, but to say that we are all idiots because we didn’t draw the same conclusion? Please keep posts like that to yourself.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:35 am
174) Why don’t you start one?
May 5th, 2009 at 8:41 am
New links up this morning including comments from Wall about his “mistake”
https://twitter.com/MisterObvious
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May 5th, 2009 at 8:47 am
YES, I KNOW THIS IS IN ALL-CAPS. IT’S FOR A REASON, AS I DON’T POST LIKE THIS USUALLY. I WANTED TO BRING EVERYONE’S ATTENTION TO A WEB-SITE. IT’S PITIFUL AND HILARIOUS AT THE SAME TIME. TAKE A MOMENT TO READ ALL OF THIS GUY’S PREVIOUS POSTS ABOUT UK AND CALAPARI ON THE SITE. GO TO: http://www.johnvcalipari.com/2009/05/
May 5th, 2009 at 8:50 am
178- BOLD gets more attention than CAPS!
May 5th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Another person familiar with Bledsoe’s thinking said he believes the No. 1 Birmingham News Super Senior has chosen Kentucky, but it’s important to remember two things about recruits and their college choices.
Nothing is official until they sign a letter-of-intent.
Bledsoe himself has not announced his decision.
http://blog.al.com/kevin-scarbinsky/2009/05/scarbinsky_its_kentucky_or _mem.html
May 5th, 2009 at 8:50 am
Good morning guys and gals. Here’s my two cents worth–and it’s probably only worth a penny… At first, I thought (like many others) that Wall “got what he deserved” because he hadn’t signed with UK. After I had time to actually think about my position, I couldn’t do anything but laugh. Wall is all of 18 years old. I believe (if I can think back that far) that I made a few stupid decisions when I was that age. Bottom line: he will sign or he won’t sign; Bledsoe will sign or he won’t sign. Everything else is just conjecture, and we’ll have to wait (along with everyone else) to see how this plays out–whether we like it or not! I wish them both the best, and I STILL can’t wait until November! Peace.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:51 am
Matt, great blog, in the fourth paragraph it is like the spiderman thing—”with great power comes great responsibility”
May 5th, 2009 at 8:51 am
This is another reason we need Patterson and Meeks to return. They can show Wall and Cousins how to handle the spot light at UK. I think Patterson and Meek along with great character guys like Harris, Miller, Hood, Stevenson, and Orton will create a good enviroment for Wall and Cousins to mature. I think Patterson and Meeks coming back would tip the scales for a mature team. If they both go pro and Wall comes it seems like Wall and Cousins will be the focus of the team and the team maturity level drops.
May 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
178
That is just a disgrundled Memphis fan with nothing better to do, and i`m sure there is no truth to any of his posts
May 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
#183 Luke 12:48 “From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.”
May 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
#182 Luke 12:48 “From everyone who has been given much, much will be demanded; and from the one who has been entrusted with much, much more will be asked.”
May 5th, 2009 at 9:07 am
We need a new post!
May 5th, 2009 at 9:11 am
I just farted!
May 5th, 2009 at 9:12 am
I am so tired of this “Prima Dona”! I wish we would just tell him “Happy Trails” and go get Bledsoe. At least we would have a point guard for a few years not a one and done ego trip!
May 5th, 2009 at 9:19 am
186/187- Bruce Pearl also uses scripture to swoon women!
This thy stature is like to a palm tree, and thy breasts to clusters of grapes. (Song of Solomon 7:7)
May 5th, 2009 at 9:20 am
189 - nice try card fan!
May 5th, 2009 at 9:22 am
[...] Jones says the Wall incident is no big deal, and reminds us that Duke looked past a similar incident in [...]
May 5th, 2009 at 9:23 am
190
It shouldn`t be long now, Macon volfan will be showing up to defend Bruce Pearl for what you just posted. lol
I have noticed that every time someone posts something of an insult to Pearl that Macon Volfan isnt too far behind to take up for him. I think must be constantly monitoring this blog looking for anything Pearl related. lol
Im not insulting Macon Volfan but i have noticed that. lol
May 5th, 2009 at 9:26 am
Macon Volfan does seem like a pretty good guy though, always polite and respectful.
May 5th, 2009 at 9:27 am
193] What better words to use on a woman than from the Bible?
Ok, new topic/list… Pickup lines used by Pearl?
I’ll start…”Baby, you must be tired b/c you been running thru my mind all day!”
Next….C’mon, join in the fun….
May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 am
“I lost my teddy bear will you sleep whith me?”
May 5th, 2009 at 9:29 am
“Are your jeans from outer space? ’cause your butt is out of this world.”
May 5th, 2009 at 9:30 am
C’mon people….I know you’ve got them in your head… What would Pearl say?
May 5th, 2009 at 9:31 am
“I’m not actually this tall. I’m sitting on my wallet.”
May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 am
“Do you work for UPS? ‘Cause I swear I saw you checking out my package!”
May 5th, 2009 at 9:32 am
You are idiots if you think this is a bidding war about a kid being paid to play college,…. idiots. Esp when you list facts that ARE NOT FACTS. (a la 151)
May 5th, 2009 at 9:33 am
“I know I’m not Fred Flinestone, but I can make your Bed Rock”
May 5th, 2009 at 9:34 am
“Am I cute, or do you need another drink?”
May 5th, 2009 at 9:34 am
174. i couldn’t have said it better. honestly, i am over wall….i want bledsoe. ksr, please get over this dramatic B.S. and go back to something funny.
May 5th, 2009 at 9:37 am
Well, I tried a new topic….
OH MY GOD, stumbled across this interview with Pearl after he beat UK for the first time, what is with this guy and taking his shirt off???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucL1_BuWp40
May 5th, 2009 at 9:41 am
More random stuff…
UK’s Intro Video…. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxp_WWA_v5U
I just love that!
May 5th, 2009 at 9:42 am
Anyone know if Bledsoe and Cousins have any sort of friendship since they both played in AL? Just curious if that might help his decision making.
May 5th, 2009 at 9:44 am
208!
May 5th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Well said, Matt
May 5th, 2009 at 10:07 am
RESPECT. This guy can’t be respectful if he doesn’t respect other people’s property. I hope it is a one time incident.
May 5th, 2009 at 10:16 am
What are you talking about 210? The guy did not do any damage to the property, he just went into the house to get his groove on with a female lady friend… No harm in that, I can remember when I was 18 and I was looking for a nearby house, empty car, empty parking lot and an alley way to get my groove on…. I’m sure that you can respect that..
May 5th, 2009 at 10:32 am
#76 Wow, great post. Very interesting scoop.
May 5th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Memphis has some of the dumbest fans in the world….”if you come to Memphis you be THEE-MAN and come play for a school that produces PG for the NBA.”
May 5th, 2009 at 11:54 am
91- I’ve been in a LOT of post-trip meetings, not only with players but also with people from the athletic department, every conversation had with the recruit is broken down, mainly to provide talking points for e-mail correspondence and when the players talk to him on the phone. (Players are allowed to communicate pretty much unfettered with a recruit as long as they aren’t told to do so by the coaching staff) Knowing a kid’s concerns before this communication kicks up makes it a lot easier to answer his questions.
111- I don’t think Cal is a particularly dirty coach, but I’m sure that Sandy Bell will find a way for us to get into NCAA trouble under him. I have ZERO faith in her as a compliance director.